My 2 cents...

topic posted Sat, January 1, 2005 - 3:45 PM by  Harmonydances
Dancing to live music keeps me alive. ..

Unfortunatly some dancers, and their teachers have no idea of how to dance to live since it is so easy to just pop in a cd and choreograph the song to the nth degree. It never varies. It is always the same. To some, that is an advantage, to me that is BORING. Taped music does not have the "energy" or magic that live does. Live keeps you awake and from becoming a ROBO-Dancer. Problem is, so many american dancers today dont know the difference. Once you have experienced it, with good musicians, then you know the difference.

How do you feel about that?
posted by:
Harmonydances
California
  • Re: My 2 cents...

    Sun, January 2, 2005 - 1:00 PM
    I think there are many different reasons that dancers dance and teachers teach to recorded music. One is to give the students a feeling of accomplishment. Many students go to bellydance classes just to learn a few steps and never take it beyond that.

    Dancing a taqsim to live music requires a vocabulary of steps large enough that the three minutes or so that the dancer is out there isn't just a series of shimmies and drops. Kathi Richards mentioned a workshop called "Beyond the Hip", where a teacher (I don't remember who) teaches how do incorporate various moves such as hand gestures and head slides into a taqsim routine.

    The other is confidence. Many dancers I have encountered don't want to solo, ever. That is why they dance tribal-style, they are more comfortable in a group. Many tribal-style groups dance to live music, most notably Gypsy Caravan and FCBD (Helm), but again, they have a vocabulary of steps that they can draw from to match the music.

    I have had the privilege of dancing the taqsim to some of the best drumming I have ever heard. Having enough confidence in your drummer to play something that you can dance to is another challenge in dancing to live music. Communication between dancer and drummer is key. Many dancers don't have the privilege of dancing to the same drummer over and over enough to develop that kind of communication.

    I agree, now that I have done it, live music is definitely best. I am hooked! I am looking forward to at least two workshops this year to improve my taqsim-February is Princess Farhana's Extreme Taqsim at Dances in the Desert, the other is Angelika in Baja in October.

    And I believe the term is no longer Robo-Dancer but Zombie-Dancer (new year, new word!)
    Just my 2 euros......
    • Re: My 2 cents...

      Mon, January 3, 2005 - 9:04 AM
      I really didnt mean to sound like a snob. But I have met dancers who have been dancing "professionally" for over 10 years and have never dances to live music and were scared to death of trying it. Also, dancers who have danced to both live and taped- One who took our inuagural workshop 2 yrs ago who insisted we play taped for her at the show, so she could do her choreography. When we didnt, and pointed out that the whole purpose of the workshop was dancing to live, her comment was "Why would you subject us all to that?". She just didnt get it. "Improvisation" was anethema to her and she said that she had worked very hard to distinquish herself as a serious dancer and didnt want that reputation ruined by relying on live musicians. SERIOUSLY. Taped is good for some things, but not to the exclusion of "live". I'm afraid the trend in the US anyway, is that it is so easy to pop in a cd, that the live musician is almost irrelevant. And I agree, finding GOOD live musicians is not easy. Especially ones who really watch the dancer. THAT is the purpose of this workshop, Teaching BOTH to listen and watch and work together. I've heard horror stories of musicians who purposly try to make a dancer look bad, and they do have that power. I've also witnessed dancers dancing to some pre-set choreography that had nothing to do with the music being played. That happens to taped music too. It's like watching a forgign movie that has been dubbed, and the sount track doesnt match.
      A lot of dancers and teachers, sorry to say, dont know the difference. It is our misson to expose dancers and musicians to this novel concept. Amazing, what did dancers do before the advent of MEMOREX?
      • Re: My 2 cents...

        Wed, February 9, 2005 - 12:06 PM
        my entire aesthete is focused towards improvisation, the way I program and utilize electronica and composition arranging and performance style...but people still want to cling (oft times desperatly) to what they know...even if it should be fairly obvious (amazing how esoteric a concept obvious can be) that this is not what's up...hey but my favorite, and most common comment about my electric violin improv "instrumentals" is...are there lyrics to that? "Run for your sonic lives! Taqsim incoming!"

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